Intellectual Property,
9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals
Jul. 23, 2025
IP lawyers clash over generative AI at 9th Circuit conference
Two leading IP attorneys sparred amiably over whether training large language models on copyrighted works qualifies as fair use, as the 9th Circuit Judicial Conference tackled one of technology law's thorniest questions.




MONTEREY -- Two leading intellectual property attorneys engaged in a spirited debate at the 9th Circuit Judicial Conference on Tuesday about whether generative AI should qualify for fair use under copyright law for technology companies' large language models.
Susman Godfrey LLP partner Davida P. Brook, who represents the New York Times and other plaintiffs that have sued AI companies, went back and forth on various hypotheticals with Latham & Watkins LLP partner Andrew M...
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